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  • Crash du MH-17 : trois Russes et un Ukrainien sont poursuivis pour meurtre par le parquet néerlandais
    https://www.lemonde.fr/international/article/2019/06/19/vol-mh17-les-pays-bas-vont-juger-trois-russes-et-un-ukrainien-pour-meurtre_5


    Les débris de l’avion de la Malaysia Airlines en Ukraine, en juillet 2014.
    MAXIM ZMEYEV / REUTERS

    Les suspects russes, liés aux services secrets, risquent de ne pas être extradés pour le procès prévu en mars 2020.

    Ils seraient attendus le 9 mars 2020, à 10 heures précises, devant le tribunal hautement sécurisé de Schiphol : trois Russes et un Ukranien sont, selon l’équipe d’enquête internationale (JIT) conduite par les Pays-Bas, les responsables du tir de missile qui, le 17 juillet 2014, a entraîné le crash du vol MH-17 et causé la mort des 298 passagers et membres d’équipage. Le Boeing de la Malaysia Airlines devait relier Amsterdam à Kuala Lumpur.

    Lors d’une conférence de presse à Nieuwegein, les enquêteurs néerlandais, australien, malaisien, belge et ukrainien qui continueront à mener de longues et complexes investigations ont livré, mercredi 19 juin, les noms des Russes Igor Guirkine, Sergueï Doubinski et Oleg Poulatov, ainsi que de l’Ukrainien Leonid Karchenko. Tous les quatre sont poursuivis pour meurtre par le parquet néerlandais, qui ne se fait toutefois guère d’illusion : ces quatre suspects ne seront très probablement pas présents l’an prochain.

    D’autant moins que la Russie n’extrade pas ses citoyens et que les autorités ukrainiennes ignorent où séjourne leur ressortissant. Un traité prévoyant que le procès des responsables présumés se tiendrait aux Pays-Bas a été signé l’an dernier par La Haye et Kiev – qui n’extrade pas non plus, en principe.

  • The Mystery of the Exiled Billionaire Whistle-Blower - The New York Times
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/10/magazine/the-mystery-of-the-exiled-billionaire-whistleblower.html

    From a penthouse on Central Park, Guo Wengui has exposed a phenomenal web of corruption in China’s ruling elite — if, that is, he’s telling the truth.

    By Lauren Hilgers, Jan. 10, 2018

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    On a recent Saturday afternoon, an exiled Chinese billionaire named Guo Wengui was holding forth in his New York apartment, sipping tea while an assistant lingered quietly just outside the door, slipping in occasionally to keep Guo’s glass cup perfectly full. The tycoon’s Twitter account had been suspended again — it was the fifth or sixth time, by Guo’s count — and he blamed the Communist Party of China. “It’s not normal!” he said, about this cycle of blocking and reinstating. “But it doesn’t matter. I don’t need anyone.”

    Guo’s New York apartment is a 9,000-square-foot residence along Central Park that he bought for $67.5 million in 2015. He sat in a Victorian-style chair, his back to a pair of west-facing windows, the sunset casting craggy shadows. A black-and-white painting of an angry-looking monkey hung on the wall to Guo’s right, a hat bearing a star-and-wreath Soviet insignia on its head and a cigarette hanging from its lips. Guo had arrived dressed entirely in black, except for two silver stripes on each lapel. “I have the best houses,” he told me. Guo had picked his apartment for its location, its three sprawling balconies and the meticulously tiled floor in the entryway. He has the best apartment in London, he said; the biggest apartment in Hong Kong. His yacht is docked along the Hudson River. He is comfortable and, anyway, Guo likes to say that as a Buddhist, he wants for nothing. If it were down to his own needs alone, he would have kept his profile low. But he has a higher purpose. He is going to save China.

    Guo pitches himself as a former insider, a man who knows the secrets of a government that tightly controls the flow of information. A man who, in 2017, did the unthinkable — tearing open the veil of secrecy that has long surrounded China’s political elite, lobbing accusations about corruption, extramarital affairs and murder plots over Facebook and Twitter. His YouTube videos and tweets have drawn in farmers and shopkeepers, democracy activists, writers and businesspeople. In China, people have been arrested for chatting about Guo online and distributing T-shirts with one of his slogans printed on the front (“This is only the beginning!”). In New York, Guo has split a community of dissidents and democracy activists down the middle. Some support him. Others believe that Guo himself is a government spy.

    Nothing in Guo’s story is as straightforward as he would like it to seem. Guo is 47 years old, or 48, or 49. Although he has captured the attention of publications like The Guardian, The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal, the articles that have run about him have offered only hazy details about his life. This is because his biography varies so widely from one source to the next. Maybe his name isn’t even Guo Wengui. It could be Guo Wugui. There are reports that in Hong Kong, Guo occasionally goes by the name Guo Haoyun.

    When pressed, Guo claims a record of unblemished integrity in his business dealings, both in real estate and in finance (when it comes to his personal life, he strikes a more careful balance between virility and dedication to his family). “I never took a square of land from the government,” he said. “I didn’t take a penny of investment from the banks.” If you accept favors, he said, people will try to exploit your weaknesses. So, Guo claims, he opted to take no money and have no weaknesses.

    Yet when Guo left China in 2014, he fled in anticipation of corruption charges. A former business partner had been detained just days before, and his political patron would be detained a few days afterward. In 2015, articles about corruption in Guo’s business dealings — stories that he claims are largely fabrications — started appearing in the media. He was accused of defrauding business partners and colluding with corrupt officials. To hear Guo tell it, his political and business opponents used a national corruption campaign as a cover for a personal vendetta.

    Whatever prompted Guo to take action, his campaign came during an important year for China’s president, Xi Jinping. In October, the Communist Party of China (C.P.C.) convened its 19th National Congress, a twice-a-decade event that sets the contours of political power for the next five years. The country is in the throes of a far-reaching anti-corruption campaign, and Xi has overseen a crackdown on dissidents and human rights activists while increasing investment in censorship and surveillance. Guo has become a thorn in China’s side at the precise moment the country is working to expand its influence, and its censorship program, overseas.

    In November 2017, the Tiananmen Square activist Wang Dan warned of the growing influence of the C.P.C. on university campuses in the United States. His own attempts to hold “China salons” on college campuses had largely been blocked by the Chinese Students and Scholars Association — a group with ties to China’s government. Around the same time, the academic publisher Springer Nature agreed to block access to hundreds of articles on its Chinese site, cutting off access to articles on Tibet, Taiwan and China’s political elite. Reports emerged last year that China is spending hundreds of thousands of dollars quarterly to purchase ads on Facebook (a service that is blocked within China’s borders). In Australia, concerns about China’s growing influence led to a ban on foreign political donations.

    “That’s why I’m telling the United States they should really be careful,” Guo said. China’s influence is spreading, he says, and he believes his own efforts to change China will have global consequences. “Like in an American movie,” he told me with unflinching self-confidence. “In the last minutes, we will save the world.”

    Propaganda, censorship and rewritten histories have long been specialties of authoritarian nations. The aim, as famously explained by the political philosopher Hannah Arendt, is to confuse: to breed a combination of cynicism and gullibility. Propaganda can leave people in doubt of all news sources, suspicious of their neighbors, picking and choosing at random what pieces of information to believe. Without a political reality grounded in facts, people are left unmoored, building their world on whatever foundation — imaginary or otherwise — they might choose.

    The tight grip that the C.P.C. keeps on information may be nothing new, but China’s leadership has been working hard to update the way it censors and broadcasts. People in China distrusted print and television media long before U.S. politicians started throwing around accusations of “fake news.” In 2016, President Xi Jinping was explicit about the arrangement, informing the country’s media that it should be “surnamed Party.” Likewise, while the West has only recently begun to grapple with government-sponsored commenters on social media, China’s government has been manipulating online conversations for over a decade.

    “They create all kinds of confusion,” said Ha Jin, the National Book Award-winning American novelist born in China’s Liaoning Province, and a vocal supporter of Guo. “You don’t know what information you have and whether it’s right. You don’t know who are the informers, who are the agents.”

    Online, the C.P.C. controls information by blocking websites, monitoring content and employing an army of commenters widely known as the 50-cent party. The name was used as early as 2004, when a municipal government in Hunan Province hired a number of online commenters, offering a stipend of 600 yuan, or about $72. Since then, the 50-cent party has spread. In 2016, researchers from Harvard, Stanford and the University of California-San Diego estimated that these paid commenters generated 448 million social-media comments annually. The posts, researchers found, were conflict averse, cheerleading for the party rather than defending it. Their aim seemed not to be engaging in argument but rather distracting the public and redirecting attention from sensitive issues.

    In early 2017, Guo issued his first salvos against China’s ruling elite through more traditional channels. He contacted a handful of Chinese-language media outlets based in the United States. He gave interviews to the Long Island-based publication Mingjing News and to Voice of America — a live event that was cut short by producers, leading to speculation that V.O.A. had caved to Chinese government pressure. He called The New York Times and spoke with reporters at The Wall Street Journal. It did not take long, however, before the billionaire turned to direct appeals through social media. The accusations he made were explosive — he attacked Wang Qishan, Xi Jinping’s corruption czar, and Meng Jianzhu, the secretary of the Central Political and Legal Affairs Commission, another prominent player in Xi’s anti-corruption campaign. He talked about Wang’s mistresses, his business interests and conflicts within the party.

    In one YouTube video, released on Aug. 4, Guo addressed the tension between Wang and another anti-corruption official named Zhang Huawei. He recounted having dinner with Zhang when “he called Wang Qishan’s secretary and gave him orders,” Guo said. “Think about what Wang had to suffer in silence back then. They slept with the same women, and Zhang knew everything about Wang.” In addition, Guo said, Zhang knew about Wang’s corrupt business dealings. When Zhang Huawei was placed under official investigation in April, Guo claimed, it was a result of a grudge.

    “Everyone in China is a slave,” Guo said in the video. “With the exception of the nobility.”

    To those who believe Guo’s claims, they expose a depth of corruption that would surprise even the most jaded opponent of the C.P.C. “The corruption is on such a scale,” Ha Jin said. “Who could imagine that the czar of anti-corruption would himself be corrupt? It is extraordinary.”

    Retaliation came quickly. A barrage of counteraccusations began pouring out against Guo, most published in the pages of the state-run Chinese media. Warrants for his arrest were issued on charges of corruption, bribery and even rape. China asked Interpol to issue a red notice calling for Guo’s arrest and extradition. He was running out of money, it was reported. In September, Guo recorded a video during which he received what he said was a phone call from his fifth brother: Two of Guo’s former employees had been detained, and their family members were threatening suicide. “My Twitter followers are so important they are like heaven to me,” Guo said. But, he declared, he could not ignore the well-being of his family and his employees. “I cannot finish the show as I had planned,” he said. Later, Guo told his followers in a video that he was planning to divorce his wife, in order to shield her from the backlash against him.

    Guo quickly resumed posting videos and encouraging his followers. His accusations continued to accumulate throughout 2017, and he recently started his own YouTube channel (and has yet to divorce his wife). His YouTube videos are released according to no particular schedule, sometimes several days in a row, some weeks not at all. He has developed a casual, talkative style. In some, Guo is running on a treadmill or still sweating after a workout. He has demonstrated cooking techniques and played with a tiny, fluffy dog, a gift from his daughter. He invites his viewers into a world of luxury and offers them a mix of secrets, gossip and insider knowledge.

    Wang Qishan, Guo has claimed, is hiding the money he secretly earned in the Hainan-based conglomerate HNA Group, a company with an estimated $35 billion worth of investments in the United States. (HNA Group denies any ties to Wang and is suing Guo.) He accused Wang of carrying on an affair with the actress Fan Bingbing. (Fan is reportedly suing Guo for defamation.) He told stories of petty arguments among officials and claimed that Chinese officials sabotaged Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, which disappeared in 2014 en route to Beijing, in order to cover up an organ-harvesting scheme. Most of Guo’s accusations have proved nearly impossible to verify.

    “This guy is just covered in question marks,” said Minxin Pei, a professor at Claremont McKenna who specializes in Chinese governance.

    The questions that cover Guo have posed a problem for both the United States government and the Western journalists who, in trying to write about him, have found themselves buffeted by the currents of propaganda, misinformation and the tight-lipped code of the C.P.C. elite. His claims have also divided a group of exiled dissidents and democracy activists — people who might seem like Guo’s natural allies. For the most part, the democracy activists who flee China have been chased from their country for protesting the government or promoting human rights, not because of corruption charges. They tell stories of personal persecution, not insider tales of bribery, sex and money. And perhaps as a consequence, few exiled activists command as large an audience as Guo. “I will believe him,” Ha Jin said, “until one of his serious accusations is proved to be false.”

    Pei, the professor, warns not to take any of Guo’s accusations at face value. The reaction from the C.P.C. has been so extreme, however, that Pei believes Guo must know something. “He must mean something to the government,” he said. “They must be really bothered by this billionaire.” In May, Chinese officials visited Guo on visas that did not allow them to conduct official business, causing a confrontation with the F.B.I. A few weeks later, according to The Washington Times, China’s calls for Guo’s extradition led to a White House showdown, during which Jeff Sessions threatened to resign if Guo was sent back to China.

    Guo has a history of cultivating relationships with the politically influential, and the trend has continued in New York. He famously bought 5,000 copies of a book by Cherie Blair, Tony Blair’s wife. (“It was to give to my employees,” Guo told me. “I often gave my employees books to read.”) Guo has also cultivated a special relationship with Steve Bannon, whom he says he has met with a handful of times, although the two have no financial relationship. Not long after one of their meetings, Bannon appeared on Breitbart Radio and called China “an enemy of incalculable power.”

    Despite Guo’s high-powered supporters and his army of online followers, one important mark of believability has continued to elude him. Western news organizations have struggled to find evidence that would corroborate Guo’s claims. When his claims appear in print, they are carefully hedged — delivered with none of his signature charm and bombast. “Why do you need more evidence?” Guo complained in his apartment. “I can give them evidence, no problem. But while they’re out spending time investigating, I’m waiting around to get killed!”

    The details of Guo’s life may be impossible to verify, but the broad strokes confirm a picture of a man whose fortunes have risen and fallen with the political climate in China. To hear Guo tell it, he was born in Jilin Province, in a mining town where his parents were sent during the Cultural Revolution. “There were foreigners there,” Guo says in a video recorded on what he claims is his birthday. (Guo was born on Feb. 2, or May 10, or sometime in June.) “They had the most advanced machinery. People wore popular clothing.” Guo, as a result, was not ignorant of the world. He was, however, extremely poor. “Sometimes we didn’t even have firewood,” he says. “So we burned the wet twigs from the mountains — the smoke was so thick.” Guo emphasizes this history: He came from hardship. He pulled himself up.

    The story continues into Guo’s pre-teenage years, when he moved back to his hometown in Shandong Province. He met his wife and married her when he was only 15, she 14. They moved to Heilongjiang, where they started a small manufacturing operation, taking advantage of the early days of China’s economic rise, and then to Henan. Guo got his start in real estate in a city called Zhengzhou, where he founded the Zhengzhou Yuda Property Company and built the tallest building the city had seen so far, the Yuda International Trade Center. According to Guo, he was only 25 when he made this first deal.

    The string of businesses and properties that Guo developed provide some of the confirmable scaffolding of his life. No one disputes that Guo went on to start both the Beijing Morgan Investment Company and Beijing Zenith Holdings. Morgan Investment was responsible for building a cluster of office towers called the Pangu Plaza, the tallest of which has a wavy top that loosely resembles a dragon, or perhaps a precarious cone of soft-serve ice cream. Guo is in agreement with the Chinese media that in buying the property for Pangu Plaza, he clashed with the deputy mayor of Beijing. The dispute ended when Guo turned in a lengthy sex tape capturing the deputy mayor in bed with his mistress.

    There are other details in Guo’s biography, however, that vary from one source to the next. Guo says that he never took government loans; Caixin, a Beijing-based publication, quoted “sources close to the matter” in a 2015 article claiming that Guo took out 28 loans totaling 588 million yuan, or about $89 million. Guo, according to Caixin, eventually defaulted. At some point in this story — the timeline varies — Guo became friends with the vice minister of China’s Ministry of State Security, Ma Jian. The M.S.S. is China’s answer to the C.I.A. and the F.B.I. combined. It spies on civilians and foreigners alike, conducting operations domestically and internationally, amassing information on diplomats, businessmen and even the members of the C.P.C. Describing Ma, Guo leans back in his chair and mimes smoking a cigarette. “Ma Jian! He was fat and his skin was tan.” According to Guo, Ma sat like this during their first meeting, listening to Guo’s side of a dispute. Then Ma told him to trust the country. “Trust the law,” he told Guo. “We will treat you fairly.” The older master of spycraft and the young businessman struck up a friendship that would become a cornerstone in Guo’s claims of insider knowledge, and also possibly the reason for the businessman’s downfall in China.

    Following the construction of Pangu Plaza in Beijing, Guo’s life story becomes increasingly hard to parse. He started a securities business with a man named Li You. After a falling-out, Li was detained by the authorities. Guo’s company accused Li and his company of insider trading. According to the 2015 article in Caixin, Li then penned a letter to the authorities accusing Guo of “wrongdoing.”

    As this dispute was going on, China’s anti-​corruption operation was building a case against Ma Jian. In Guo’s telling, Ma had long been rumored to be collecting intelligence on China’s leaders. As the anti-corruption campaign gained speed and officials like Wang Qishan gained power, Ma’s well of intelligence started to look like a threat. It was Guo’s relationship with Ma, the tycoon maintains, that made officials nervous. Ma was detained by the authorities in January 2015, shortly after Guo fled the country. Soon after Ma’s detention, accounts began appearing in China’s state-run media claiming that Ma had six Beijing villas, six mistresses and at least two illegitimate sons. In a 2015 article that ran in the party-run newspaper The China Daily, the writer added another detail: “The investigation also found that Ma had acted as an umbrella for the business ventures of Guo Wengui, a tycoon from Henan Province.”

    In the mix of spies, corrupt business dealings, mistresses and sex scandals, Guo has one more unbelievable story to tell about his past. It is one reason, he says, that he was mentally prepared to confront the leaders of the Communist Party. It happened nearly 29 years ago, in the aftermath of the crackdown on Tiananmen Square. According to Guo, he had donated money to the students protesting in the square, and so a group of local police officers came to find him at his home. An overzealous officer fired off a shot at Guo’s wife — at which point Guo’s younger brother jumped in front of the bullet, suffering a fatal wound. “That was when I started my plan,” he said. “If your brother had been killed in front of your eyes, would you just forget it?” Never mind the fact that it would take 28 years for him to take any public stand against the party that caused his brother’s death. Never mind that the leadership had changed. “I’m not saying everyone in the Communist Party is bad,” he said. “The system is bad. So what I need to oppose is the system.”

    On an unusually warm Saturday afternoon in Flushing, Queens, a group of around 30 of Guo’s supporters gathered for a barbecue in Kissena Park. They laid out a spread of vegetables and skewers of shrimp and squid. Some children toddled through the crowd, chewing on hot dogs and rolling around an unopened can of Coke. The adults fussed with a loudspeaker and a banner that featured the name that Guo goes by in English, Miles Kwok. “Miles Kwok, NY loves U,” it said, a heart standing in for the word “loves.” “Democracy, Justice, Liberty for China.” Someone else had carried in a life-size cutout of the billionaire.

    The revelers decided to hold the event in the park partly for the available grills but also partly because the square in front of Guo’s penthouse had turned dangerous. A few weeks earlier, some older women had been out supporting Guo when a group of Chinese men holding flags and banners showed up. At one point, the men wrapped the women in a protest banner and hit them. The park was a safer option. And the protesters had learned from Guo — it wasn’t a live audience they were hoping for. The group would be filming the protest and posting it on social media. Halfway through, Guo would call in on someone’s cellphone, and the crowd would cheer.

    Despite this show of support, Guo’s claims have divided China’s exiled dissidents to such an extent that on a single day near the end of September, two dueling meetings of pro-democracy activists were held in New York, one supporting Guo, the other casting doubt on his motivations. (“They are jealous of me,” Guo said of his detractors. “They think: Why is he so handsome? Why are so many people listening to him?”) Some of Guo’s claims are verifiably untrue — he claimed in an interview with Vice that he paid $82 million for his apartment — and others seem comically aggrandized. (Guo says he never wears the same pair of underwear twice.) But the repercussions he is facing are real.

    In December, Guo’s brother was sentenced to three years and six months in prison for destroying accounting records. The lawsuits filed against Guo for defamation are piling up, and Guo has claimed to be amassing a “war chest” of $150 million to cover his legal expenses. In September, a new set of claims against Guo were made in a 49-page document circulated by a former business rival. For Ha Jin, Guo’s significance runs deeper than his soap-opera tales of scandal and corruption. “The grand propaganda scheme is to suppress and control all the voices,” Jin said. “Now everybody knows that you can create your own voice. You can have your own show. That fact alone is historical.” In the future, Jin predicts, there will be more rebels like Guo. “There is something very primitive about this, realizing that this is a man, a regular citizen who can confront state power.”

    Ho Pin, the founder of Long Island’s Mingjing News, echoed Jin. Mingjing’s reporters felt that covering Guo was imperative, no matter the haziness of the information. “In China, the political elite that Guo was attacking had platforms of their own,” Ho said. “They have the opportunity, the power and the ability to use all the government’s apparatus to refute and oppose Guo Wengui. So our most important job is to allow Guo Wengui’s insider knowledge reach the fair, open-minded people in China.” Still, people like Pei urge caution when dealing with Guo’s claims. Even Guo’s escape raises questions. Few others have slipped through the net of China’s anti-corruption drive. “How could he get so lucky?” Pei asked. “He must have been tipped off long before.”

    At the barbecue, a supporter named Ye Rong tucked one of his children under his arm and acknowledged that Guo’s past life is riddled with holes. There was always the possibility that Guo used to be a thug, but Ye didn’t think it mattered. The rules of the conflict had been set by the Communist Party. “You need all kinds of people to oppose the Chinese government,” Ye said. “We need intellectuals; we also need thugs.”

    Guo, of course, has his own opinions about his legacy. He warned of dark times for Americans and for the world, if he doesn’t succeed in his mission to change China. “I am trying to help,” he told me. “I am not joking with you.” He continued: “I will change China within the next three years. If I don’t change it, I won’t be able to survive.”
    Correction: Jan. 12, 2018

    An earlier version of this article misidentified the name of the province where the Chinese government hired online commenters in 2004. It is Hunan Province, not Henan.

    #Chine #politique #corruption #tireurs_d_alarme

  • Les nouvelles questions qui se posent sur la disparition du vol MH370 de la Malaysia Airlines...
    https://www.crashdebug.fr/international/15733-les-nouvelles-questions-qui-se-posent-sur-la-disparition-du-vol-mh3

    Ce qui est sûr c’est que des gens ont des choses à cacher dans cette affaire. Cela mettra certainement, 10 ans, 20 ans, mais un jour on saura la vérité. En attendant, on vous avait fourni une hypothèse, elle vaut ce qu’elle vaut, mais elle a le mérite d’exister.

    La disparition du vol MH370 de la Malaysia Airlines reste un mystère doublé d’une opacité insupportable pour les familles des victimes.

    En mars 2014, 239 personnes embarquent à Bord d’un Boeing 777 de la Malaysia Airlines à destination de Pékin, en Chine. On ne reverra jamais plus ces passagers et les familles sont plongées dans la douleur. Parmi les disparus, quatre Français, l’épouse de Ghyslain Wattrelos, deux de ses enfants et une amie. Cinq ans après, l’enquête malaisienne est terminée et les recherches de (...)

    #En_vedette #Actualités_internationales #Actualités_Internationales

  • State Department Silent on #MH17 Anniversary Following Trump-Putin Firestorm – Foreign Policy
    https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/07/18/state-dept-mh17-ukraine-russia-netherlands-malaysian-airlines

    Every year since a Russian missile downed Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 over Ukraine on July 17, 2014, killing all 298 passengers and crew, the U.S. State Department has issued a statement to mark the anniversary.

    But on the anniversary this year—a day after U.S. President Donald Trump met in Helsinki with his Russian counterpart, Vladimir Putin—the State Department was conspicuously silent about it.

    Officials there prepared a draft statement that was sharply critical of Russia for its alleged role in the attack. But for reasons the State Department has not explained, it was never issued.

    Based on a cached version of the U.S. embassy’s website in Moscow, it appeared on the homepage briefly on Tuesday but then was quickly taken down. One U.S. official confirmed this account to Foreign Policy.
    Four years after the downing of MH17, the world still awaits Russia’s acknowledgement of its role,” read the draft, a copy of which was obtained byForeign Policy.

    It is time for Russia to cease its callous disinformation campaign and fully support the next investigative phase … and the criminal prosecution of those responsible for the downing of flight MH17.

  • Le missile qui a abattu le #MH17 au-dessus de l’Ukraine provenait d’une unité militaire russe
    https://www.lemonde.fr/international/article/2018/05/24/le-missile-qui-a-abattu-le-mh17-au-dessus-de-l-ukraine-provenait-d-une-unite

    Le missile qui a abattu le MH17, de la compagnie Malaysia Airlines, au-dessus de l’Ukraine en 2014 provenait d’une unité militaire russe, ont conclu, jeudi 24 mai, des enquêteurs internationaux. Il s’agit de « la 53e brigade antiaérienne basée à Koursk, en Russie », a précisé l’enquêteur néerlandais Wilbert Paulissen au cours d’une conférence de presse aux Pays-Bas, ajoutant qu’elle faisait « partie des forces armées russes ».

  • 19th Century shipwrecks found during search for #MH370 | Western Australian Museum
    http://museum.wa.gov.au/about/latest-news/19th-century-shipwrecks-found-during-search-mh370

    Two shipwrecks discovered 2,300km off the coast of Western Australia during the initial search for missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 have been identified as 19th Century merchant sailing vessels carrying cargoes of coal.

    The sites provide tangible archaeological evidence for use of the historic Roaring 40s trade route for ships between Europe, North America, Australia, New Zealand, India, Southeast Asia, China and Japan. 

    The Western Australian Museum was asked by the Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) to analyse sonar and video data taken in international waters by the search vessels Fugro Equator and Havilah Harmony in May and December 2015. The work was undertaken by Dr Ross Anderson, Curator of Maritime Archaeology at the WA Museum.

    Both wrecks were found at depths between 3,700 and 3,900 metres, roughly 36km apart. We used a combination of all of the data supplied by ATSB, historical research and maritime archaeological analyses to determine both wrecks were in fact 19th Century merchant sailing ships – one wooden and one iron – both carrying coal,” Dr Anderson said.
    […]
    Historical research into all 19th Century merchant ships that disappeared in international waters is incomplete so we cannot conclusively determine identity of the individual ships,” Dr Anderson said. “However, we can narrow the possibilities to some prime candidates based on available information from predominantly British shipping sources.

    For the wooden ship the brig W. Gordon and the barque Magdala_ are two possible candidates; for the iron ship the barques_ Kooringa (1894), Lake Ontario (1897) and West Ridge (1883) are possible, with the West Ridge best fitting the evidence.

  • Legislation Clears Way for #MH17 Trials in the Netherlands - Bloomberg
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-21/legislation-clears-way-for-mh17-trials-in-the-netherlands

    The Dutch government has sent legislation to Parliament that clears the way for prosecution in the Netherlands of any suspects identified in the long-running investigation into the 2014 downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 over Ukraine.

    The justice ministry said in a statement Wednesday that the legislation will make it possible for foreign suspects to be tried in a Dutch court in The Hague, including by video links if they aren’t extradited.

    An international criminal probe concluded in 2016 that a missile which destroyed the Malaysian passenger jet and killed all 298 people aboard was fired from rebel-controlled territory in Ukraine by a mobile launcher trucked in from Russia and hastily returned there.

    Investigations are continuing into the identities of those responsible. No indictments have yet been issued.

  • Die Polizei und ukrainische Medien berichteten am Sonntag, dass der...
    https://diasp.eu/p/6890206

    Die Polizei und ukrainische Medien berichteten am Sonntag, dass der 29-jährige Vladyslav Voloshyn, ein ehemaliger Kampfpilot, vermutlich Suizid begangen hat. Er hatte im Rahmen der sogenannten Antiterroroperation (ATO) gegen die Separatisten gekämpft und erhielt eine Ehrung als ATO-Held. Er soll sich selber mit einer nicht registrierten halbautomatischen Makarow-Pistole erschossen haben und ist auf dem Weg in Krankenhaus seinen Verletzungen erlegen. Seine Familie hielt sich im Haus auf, seine Frau will den Schuss gehört haben.

    Interessant ist, was Interfax.ua berichtet, nämlich dass Voloshyn zwischen 2012 und 2016 Pilot eines SU-25 Kampfflugzeugs auf dem Flugwaffenstützpunkt Mykolaiv bei der dort stationierten 229. Taktischen Luftwaffenbrigade tätig war. 2014 flog er angeblich 33 (...)

  • U.S. Firm Ocean Infinity Says it’s Hopeful of Getting #MH370 Search Contract Soon – gCaptain
    http://gcaptain.com/u-s-firm-ocean-infinity-says-its-hopeful-of-getting-mh370-search-contract-


    Ocean Infinity’s vessel Seabed Constructor serves as host for six AUVs to conduct its seabed survey. Photo: Swire Seabed/Ocean Infinity

    U.S.-based seabed exploration firm Ocean Infinity on Wednesday said it was moving a vessel closer to a possible search area for missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 as it soon expects to be awarded a contract by Malaysia to resume the search.

    The disappearance of the aircraft en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing in March 2014 with 239 people aboard ranks among the world’s greatest aviation mysteries. Australia, China and Malaysia ended a fruitless A$200-million ($156.62 million) search in January last year.

    But in October, Malaysia said it was in talks with Ocean Infinity to resume the search on a “no-cure, no-fee” basis, meaning it will only get paid if it finds the plane.

  • Disparition du vol #MH370 : des objets repérés près de la zone du crash
    http://www.ouest-france.fr/economie/aeronautique/disparition-du-vol-mh370-des-objets-reperes-pres-de-la-zone-du-crash-51

    Des clichés pris par un satellite français et remis à l’Australie en mars dernier montrent la présence dans la mer d’objets "probablement artificiels" quelques jours après la disparition du vol MH370. Il pourrait s’agir de débris de l’appareil disparu en mars 2014.

    La disparition du vol MH370 de la Malaysia Airlines est l’une des plus grandes énigmes de l’aviation civile. Le Boeing s’était volatilisé le 8 mars 2014 avec 239 personnes à bord, peu après son décollage de Kuala Lumpur à destination de Pékin. Les recherches qui ont duré près de trois ans ont été stoppées en mars dernier.

    Un rapport publié ce mercredi 16 août 2017 par l’Australie pourrait marquer un tournant dans l’enquête. Plusieurs objets « probablement fabriqués par l’homme » flottaient près du site du crash du MH370 quelques semaines seulement après sa disparition, ont annoncé mercredi des scientifiques australiens, plus de six mois après la fin des recherches.

    Selon deux nouveaux rapports scientifiques, des photos, prises par des satellites militaires français deux semaines après la disparition de l’avion mais non divulguées au public, montraient au moins 70 objets identifiables flottant près d’un secteur de l’océan Indien appelé la « zone nord » par les chercheurs.

  • U.S. exploration firm offers to resume #MH370 search, families say
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-malaysia-airlines-mh-idUSKBN1AI1B4

    A U.S. seabed exploration firm has offered to take on the search for Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370, families of passengers and a Malaysian government minister said on Wednesday, in a bid to solve one of the world’s greatest aviation mysteries.
    […]
    Grace Nathan, a Malaysian lawyer whose mother Anne Daisy was on the plane, told Reuters the U.S. company, #Ocean_Infinity, had offered to resume the search for free, and had asked for a reward only in the event that the aircraft was found.

  • MH370 search data unveils fishing hot spots, ancient geological movements
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-malaysia-airlines-mh370-mapping-idUSKBN1A407W

    Detailed sea-floor maps made during the unsuccessful search for missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370, released by Australia on Wednesday, could help increase the knowledge of rich fisheries and the prehistoric movement of the earth’s southern continents.
    […]
    There are the locations of seamounts which will attract a lot of international deep sea fishermen to the area,” Pattiaratchi told Reuters by phone.

    High-priced fish such as tuna, toothfish, orange roughy, alfonsino and trevally are known to gather near the seamounts, where plankton swirl in the currents.

    Pattiaratchi said the location of seamounts would also help model the impact of tsunamis, given undersea mountains help dissipate their destructive energy, and potentially change our understanding of the break-up of the ancient supercontinent of Gondwana.

  • Two Pilots Say They Can Find #MH370. All They Need Is $5 Million | WIRED
    https://www.wired.com/2016/03/pilots-say-know-mh370-need-5-million

    Two years ago, Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 disappeared somewhere over the Indian Ocean with 239 people on board. What then grew into humanity’s largest, most expensive search operation has also been among its most frustrating and beguiling. Investigators have found only one real bit of evidence, a wing flap that washed up on the shores of Réunion, near Madagascar. It was pretty useless. Because it spent nearly 500 days bobbing around on the ocean’s surface, all it indicates is that the plane crashed into the water. Likely to the east.

  • Search for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 finally called off with mystery unsolved - The Washington Post
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/search-for-malaysia-airlines-mh370-finally-called-off-with-mystery-unsolved/2017/01/17/3662d778-dc84-11e6-ad42-f3375f271c9c_story.html

    The search for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 was finally called off Tuesday after nearly three years spent combing the desolate Indian Ocean and its deep seabed, leaving one of the greatest aviation mysteries of all time unsolved.

    The governments of Malaysia, Australia and China said crews finished an underwater sweep of a 46,000-square-mile zone of seabed without finding the missing Boeing 777.

    The most complex and expensive search in aviation history cost around $150 million but failed to locate the plane, let alone answer the questions surrounding its disappearance in March 2014.
    […]
    The decision to suspend the underwater search has not been taken lightly nor without sadness,” the [Joint Agency Coordination Center in Australia] said.

    #MH370

  • Investigators urge extending search for missing Malaysian flight | Reuters
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-malaysia-airlines-mh-idUSKBN14901C

    Investigators searching for Malaysia Airlines flight #MH370 have recommended extending the search by 25,000 sq km (9,650 sq miles), to an area further north in the Indian Ocean, after conceding for the first time they were probably looking in the wrong place.

  • Vol #MH17 : la Russie émet une nouvelle version sur le crash | Actualités russes

    http://fr.rbth.com/ukraine/2016/09/28/vol-mh17-la-russie-emet-une-nouvelle-version-sur-le-crash_634011

    La version russe maintenant, pour @simplicissimus

    Les militaires russes n’ont enregistré aucun missile tiré par une batterie antiaérienne Bouk-M1 depuis les régions orientales de l’Ukraine (contrôlées par les milices populaires) en direction de l’avion de la Malaysia Airlines en juillet 2014, a déclaré lundi soir Andreï Koban, chef des troupes de transmission des Forces aérospatiales de Russie.

    Vol MH17 : la Russie dit « niet » à la création d’un tribunal spécial
    Selon les données des radars russes placés à la frontière avec l’Ukraine et les informations communiquées aux forces armées russes par les responsables des républiques autoproclamées de Donetsk et de Lougansk, le vol MH17 a été approché par deux avions civils ainsi que par un drone en matériaux composites Orlan-10 long de près de deux mètres.

  • Vol #MH370 : nouveau débris, nouvelle théorie ? | Air Journal
    http://www.air-journal.fr/2016-08-30-vol-mh370-nouveau-debris-nouvelle-theorie-5168676.html

    La découverte au Mozambique de ce qui ressemble à un nouveau débris du Boeing 777-200ER de la compagnie aérienne Malaysia Airlines, disparu en mars 2014 avec 229 personnes à bord, relance selon certains experts la théorie d’une destruction de l’appareil au détriment de celle d’un amerrissage en douceur.

    Révélée le 26 aout 2016 par un guide touristique sud-africain sur une plage du sud du Mozambique, la découverte concerne une pièce de métal triangulaire d’environ un mètre de long « qui semble avoir passé pas mal de temps dans l’océan ». Jean Viljoen a remis le débris à la police, mais pas avant d’avoir mis en ligne une photo de la pièce comportant de la peinture rouge, et qui comporte « des autocollants avec des nombres inscrits dont certains sont visibles ». Mike Exner, membre d’un groupe indépendant d’experts travaillant sur la disparition de l’avion, estime sur les réseaux sociaux que ce morceau trouvé au Mozambique serait en fait une partie de l’empennage vertical du 777-200ER, après avoir fait un montage photo. Le débris a en outre été retrouvé sur une plage plus de 200 km au sud de celle où d’autres morceaux avaient été découverts, puis formellement identifiés comme provenant de l’avion disparu.

  • Crash du #MH17 : un député néerlandais accuse Kiev
    https://fr.sputniknews.com/international/201602121021709030-crash-boeing-depute-accusations-missile

    Un parlementaire néerlandais a publié sur Twitter la conclusion de l’enquête officielle selon laquelle le jour de l’attaque contre le Boeing malaisien, l’armée ukrainienne était la seule à disposer de systèmes de missiles Bouk opérationnels dans le Donbass.

    ​Au terme de débats parlementaires à huis clos sur le crash du Boeing malaisien dans le Donbass, le député néerlandais Pieter Omtzigt (parti Appel démocrate-chrétien — CDA) a fait savoir que l’Ukraine était la seule à être en possession d’armes pouvant abattre l’avion de ligne qui effectuait le vol MH17 au moment des faits.

    Le 22 janvier, le parlement des Pays-Bas a tenu des débats à huis clos consacrés à l’enquête sur les causes de la catastrophe du Boeing malaisien. Parmi les personnes qui ont pris la parole figurait Harm Brouwer, président de la commission spéciale chargée de superviser les activités de l’armée et des services secrets (CTIVD).

    Après avoir rappelé que le Boeing de la Malaysia Airlines avait été abattu le 17 juillet 2014 par un missile Bouk, M. Brouwer a fait savoir qu’au moment du crash, les forces armées ukrainiennes étaient les seules à disposer de systèmes de missiles sol-air Bouk opérationnels dans le Donbass.

    Après avoir appris cette nouvelle, Pieter Omtzigt l’a publiée le jour même sur son compte Twitter. Il est pourtant à noter que ce message est pratiquement passé inaperçu.

    tweet du 22/01/16, article du 12/02/16)

    • Crash du vol MH17 : la BBC met en cause la chasse ukrainienne
      24.04.2016
      https://fr.sputniknews.com/international/201604241024500230-crash-boeing-malaisie-donbass-chasseurs-ukrainien

      La BBC a procédé à une enquête approfondie qui a confirmé l’hypothèse selon laquelle le Boeing malaisien effectuant le vol MH17 aurait été abattu par un chasseur et non par un missile tiré depuis le sol.

      Ce dimanche, certains journaux britanniques ont mis leurs lecteurs en effervescence en annonçant la projection d’un documentaire intitulé « Conspiracy Files : Who Shot Down MH17 ? ». Le film sera diffusé le 3 mai sur la chaîne BBC Two.

    • #merci
      le programme sera disponible en ligne ici peu après la diffusion

      Ceci dit, l’annonce de la BBC est nettement moins flamboyante et semble surtout énumérer ce qui est présenter comme un fatras de théories conspirationnistes (c’est le deuxième numéro d’une série placée sous ce thème…)

      BBC Two - The Conspiracy Files, Who Shot Down MH17 ?
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0791ns4

      Who Shot Down MH17?
      The Conspiracy Files

      When Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 was shot down over Ukraine, killing all 298 passengers and crew, a storm of conspiracy theories was unleashed across social media. While the official inquiries have pointed the finger of blame at separatist fighters and their Russian backers, a host of different theories claim the Ukrainian government, and even the CIA, were to blame.

      With revealing eyewitness testimonies, satellite photographs, wire taps, clandestine videos and expert evidence, Conspiracy Files tries to sort the fact from the fiction. In a world where the information war fought online can be just as significant as battles on the ground, this film also analyses the role of the Kremlin in the search for the truth about who shot down MH17.

  • Les débris trouvés au Mozambique proviennent « presque certainement » du vol MH370
    http://www.lemonde.fr/asie-pacifique/article/2016/03/24/les-debris-trouves-au-mozambique-proviennent-presque-certainement-du-vol-mh3

    Les deux débris découverts en décembre puis début mars au Mozambique proviennent « quasi certainement du MH370 » de la Malaysia Airlines, a annoncé jeudi 24 mars le ministère australien des transports, après analyse de ces pièces par des experts enquêtant sur la disparition du vol il y a deux ans.

    Le ministre australien des transports, Darren Chester, a souligné dans un communiqué que les débris correspondaient aux panneaux que l’on peut trouver à bord d’un Boeing 777 de la Malaysia :

    « Retrouver ce genre de débris sur la côte Est de l’Afrique est cohérent avec les dérives modélisées par l’agence [publique australienne pour la recherche] CSIRO et confirme le bien-fondé de nos efforts de recherche dans le sud de l’océan Indien.  »

    L’Australie coordonne les recherches en mer du MH370, qui s’était volatilisé le 8 mars 2014 peu après son décollage de Kuala Lumpur à destination de Pékin, avec 239 personnes à bord. Ces recherches couvrent 120 000 kilomètres carrés. Elles devraient se terminer en juin ou en juillet, si aucun indice n’est découvert quand l’ensemble de cette zone aura été parcouru.

    « La recherche du MH370 se poursuit », a précisé M. Chester. « Il reste 25 000 kilomètres carrés de fonds marins à couvrir. Nous continuons d’y porter toute notre attention et gardons espoir que l’avion sera retrouvé. »

  • Vol MH17 : les enquêteurs visés par des pirates informatiques
    http://www.lemonde.fr/pixels/article/2015/10/27/vol-mh17-des-pirates-informatiques-ont-vise-le-groupe-d-experts-neerlandais_

    Le Bureau néerlandais pour la sécurité (OVV), qui travaille depuis plus d’un an sur les causes du crash du vol MH17, est la cible depuis la fin septembre d’attaques informatiques, visant, semble-t-il, à récupérer le maximum d’informations sensibles sur les résultats de l’enquête. Les soupçons se portent une nouvelle fois vers le groupe PawnStorm, réputé proche du pouvoir russe.

    A priori, les pirates s’intéressaient en premier lieu au rapport final d’expertise sur la catastrophe du Boeing 777 de la Malaysia Airlines, qui a fait 298 morts, le 17 juillet 2014 dans l’est de l’Ukraine. Rendu public le 13 octobre, ce rapport conclut qu’un missile BUK de fabrication russe est bien à l’origine du crash, tout en laissant subsister un doute sur le lieu d’où il a été tiré. Toutefois, d’après le président de l’OVV, Tjibbe Joustra, le tir provenait sans doute d’un territoire contrôlé par les séparatistes prorusses.

    Selon une étude publiée le 22 octobre par Feike Hacquebord, expert en sécurité chez l’éditeur de logiciels Trend Micro, le groupe de pirates PawnStorm se cache derrière les récentes attaques contre l’OVV.

    Le procédé utilisé, suffisamment sophistiqué pour émaner d’un groupe très organisé, a mis en œuvre dès le 28 septembre un faux serveur de messagerie, destiné à récupérer les accès aux boîtes mail des experts de l’OVV, puis le 14 octobre, au lendemain de la publication du rapport, un faux serveur VPN destiné à pirater les échanges de communications sécurisées au sein du groupe d’experts aéronautiques.

  • Sécurité aérienne, une pratique universelle dans le viseur
    http://www.latribune.fr/entreprises-finance/services/transport-logistique/securite-aerienne-une-pratique-universelle-dans-le-viseur-512689.html

    L’AESA [Agence européenne de la sécurité aérienne] veut mettre son nez dans les partages de codes ou #code-share, une pratique qui permet à une compagnie de placer ses numéros de vols sur des lignes d’un partenaire. Et donc de vendre des sièges sans avions et personnels supplémentaires. Autrement dit d’étendre, à moindres frais, son réseau de manière considérable. Ce procédé structure aujourd’hui l’ensemble du transport aérien mondial et notamment les trois alliances mondiales (Star Alliance, Onewordl et Skyteam), qui représentent plus des trois-quarts du trafic mondial. Aujourd’hui, on ne compte plus le nombre de vols commercialisés par deux, trois, voire quatre compagnies aériennes.

    Or, ces pratiques sont aujourd’hui dans le viseur de l’AESA. « Nous commençons à regarder cela de très près », a déclaré ce jeudi Patrick Ky en citant l’exemple du #MH17 de Malaysia Airlines, abattu en juillet 2014 par un missile sol air alors qu’il survolait l’Ukraine, et dont la plupart des victimes avaient acheté un billet KLM.
    […]
    Patrick Ky prend d’autres exemples pour justifier les problèmes liés aux code-share. Il a notamment cité l’exemple d’une compagnie non européenne membre de Skyteam (celle d’Air France) qui survole la Syrie alors que l’AESA recommande de ne pas survoler la Syrie ni l’Irak. « Sur ce vol, il peut y avoir un passager qui a acheté un vol Air France. Que fait-on ? Je n’ai pas la réponse », explique-t-il. L’AESA n’a pas en effet la possibilité d’agir sur des compagnies non-européennes.
    […]
    Ces exemples montrent que les compagnies aériennes n’ont pas le même comportement face aux risques. Et qui posent la question de l’information aux passagers. « Est-ce qu’en tant que passager on a le droit d’accéder au risque que l’on fait prendre ».

  • Vol MH370 : le débris découvert à La Réunion appartient « avec certitude » au Boeing disparu — Le Monde.fr - Actualité à la Une
    http://www.lemonde.fr

    Vol MH370 : le débris découvert à La Réunion appartient "avec certitude" au Boeing disparu
    Le fragment d’aile trouvé en juillet à La Réunion provient "avec certitude" du Boeing 777 de la Malaysia Airlines disparu en mars 2014 avec 239 personnes, a annoncé jeudi le parquet de Paris. Les expertises ont permis « d’associer formellement l’un des trois numéros relevés à l’intérieur du flaperon au numéro de série du flaperon du Boeing 777 du vol MH370 », précise le parquet.

  • #MH17 : le rapport final sur les causes du crash publié le 13 octobre
    http://fr.sputniknews.com/international/20150827/1017808452.html

    Le rapport final sur les causes du crash du vol MH17, abattu en juillet 2014 dans l’est de l’Ukraine avec 298 personnes à son bord, sera publié le 13 octobre, a indiqué le Bureau néerlandais pour la sécurité (OVV), en charge de l’enquête, cité par l’AFP.

    Les familles seront informées des conclusions du rapport avant sa publication officielle, a ajouté l’OVV, qui n’enquête que sur les causes de l’accident et non sur l’identité des responsables.

    • L’info ci-dessus est largement reprise. Celle-ci moins, me semble-t-il.
      C’était sur le même site il y a 2 jours.

      Crash du vol MH17 : Amsterdam dévoile la piste privilégiée
      http://fr.sputniknews.com/international/20150825/1017771118.html

      Les enquêteurs néerlandais estiment que le vol MH17 de la Malaysia Airlines aurait été abattu par un missile sol-air.

      Dans le même temps, la version selon laquelle un missile air-air aurait été à l’origine du crash n’est pas définitivement écartée, a fait savoir le porte-parole du parquet néerlandais Wim De Bruin.

      « Le groupe d’enquête international se concentre actuellement sur plusieurs scénarios, dont le plus probable est celui selon lequel l’avion a été descendu par un missile tiré depuis le sol. Cependant, d’autres scénarios, et notamment celui impliquant un missile air-air, ne sont pas à exclure non plus », a fait savoir M.de Bruin.
      Selon lui, l’enquête criminelle de la catastrophe du Boeing malaisien se poursuit toujours.

      EDIT : en français, je ne le trouve que sur ce site (et repris, plus que dubitativement, dans des forums d’actualités d’Orange).

  • Vol MH370 : un débris d’avion retrouvé à La Réunion relance les spéculations
    http://www.lemonde.fr/asie-pacifique/article/2015/07/30/vol-mh370-un-debris-d-avion-retrouve-a-la-reunion-relance-les-speculations_4

    La découverte mercredi d’un mystérieux débris d’avion sur le rivage oriental de l’île française de la Réunion, dans l’océan Indien, suscite des interrogations sur un éventuel lien avec le vol MH370 de la Malaysia Airlines, un Boeing 777 disparu depuis le 8 mars 2014.
    […]
    Sur la base de photos reçues de la pièce, un expert français en sécurité aérienne, Xavier Tytelman, a relevé sur son compte Twitter « des similitudes incroyables entre le flaperon d’un #B777 et le débris retrouvé ». Les flaperons sont de petits volets disposés en bordure des ailes, que les pilotes actionnent au décollage ou à l’atterrissage.

    L’hypothèse d’un débris du MH370 n’est pas la seule envisagée par les milieux aéronautiques, où l’on évoque aussi celle d’un fragment d’un Airbus A310 de la compagnie Yemenia, accidenté en 2009 au large des Comores, ou d’un bimoteur écrasé en 2006 au sud de la Réunion.